I was too young for the May Day protest against the Viet Nam War held in Washington, D.C. in 1971. My friends and I talked about going for weeks prior to the event, seeing ourselves as something as a cross between Che Guevara and Abbie Hoffman. We even talked seriously about ditching school, running away for a few days (our parents were dead set against any of us going), and joining the massive demonstration.
Alas, it was a pipe dream. We were just stupid kids, scared to death about being drafted and believing the anti-war propaganda about the military, the government, and the United States. We opposed the war for very personal reasons; we didn’t want to die in what we were being told was a war of conquest being fought by evil capitalists against the heroic Vietnamese agricultural reformers.
Those not alive at the time cannot fathom the depth of feeling engendered by the anti-war movement. It was magical, powerful, uplifting, and joyous. We thought we were changing the world. We thought we were ushering in a new era of democracy.
What we didn’t know was that the gimlet eyed radicals who were really in charge of the anti-war movement could have cared less about us, about the United States, or about the war for that matter. They wanted to use the anti-war movement to sweep the old guard from power and install like minded socialists in government.
The May Day protest in Washington, D.C. sought to shut down the government. Some 50,000 hard core demonstrators would block the streets and intersections while putting up human barricades in front of federal offices. How exactly this would stop the war was kind of fuzzy. No matter. Nixon was ready with the army and National Guard and in the largest mass arrest in US history, clogged the jails of Washington with 10,000 kids.
Where are the clogged jails today? As I watch the demonstration on the mall today (much smaller than those in the past) I am thinking of the massive gulf between the self absorbed hodge podge of anti-globalist, pro-feminist, anti-capitalist, pro-abortion anti-war fruitcakes cheering on speakers lobbying for Palestinians, Katrina aid, and other causes not related to the war and the committed, determined bunch of kids who put their hides on the line, filling up the jails of dozens of cities, risking the billy clubs and tear gas of the police to stop what they saw as an unjust war.
The netnuts are fond of calling those of us who support the mission in Iraq chickenhawks. What do you call someone who sits on their ass in front of a keyboard, railing against the President, claiming that the United States is falling into a dictatorship, and writing about how awful this war is and yet refuses to practice the kinds of civil disobedience that their fathers and mothers used to actually bring the Viet Nam war to an end?
I call them what they are; rank cowards. There should be a million people on the mall today. Instead, there might be 50,000. Today’s antiwar left talks big but cowers in the corner. I have often written about how unserious the left is about what they believe. The reason is on the mall today. If they really thought that the United States was on the verge of becoming a dictatorship are you seriously trying to tell me that any patriotic American wouldn’t do everything in their power to prevent it rather than mouth idiotic platitudes and self serving bromides?
I know what I would do if I actually believed the United States was in danger of slipping into some kind of authoritarian, anti-Constitutional nightmare. And it wouldn’t be sitting at this keyboard trying to come up with cleverest way to skewer my political opponent. And I know I wouldn’t be alone either. The fact is, the left is not blessed with any special insights into what evil George is trying to do to the Constitution. They are a small, pitiful minority of paranoid, self aggrandizing mountebanks who are courageous when it comes to calling people names but abject cowards when it comes to actually standing up for their beliefs and putting iron behind their words of change.
Where are all the people chaining themselves to the gates of military bases? Where are the thousands of people blocking military convoys? A couple of kids throw rocks at a military recruiting office but where are all the protestors? For God’s sake, there are more people who protest in front of abortion clinics every day than protest in front of military recruiting offices.
The fact is, the anti-war movement is a mile long and an inch deep. If there really was a massive movement to stop the war in Iraq, it would manifest itself in people carrying out some of the actions I’ve outlined above. But there is no anti-war groundswell. The American people are tired of the war, tired of the incompetence and failure and wish to see an end to the partisan wrangling over it. But war weariness does not translate into the kind of action that would stop the war dead in its tracks and bring the troops home.
To the anti-war crowd I say get off your asses and stand up for your convictions. If you seriously believe American democracy is in danger, don’t just sit like a bump on a log and pontificate about it; get up on you hind legs and fight. As it stands now, you’re all just a bunch of intellectual exhibitionists with as much commitment to ending the war and saving democracy as my pet cat Aramas.
And at least Aramas has the redeeming characteristic of being pleasant to be around.
1:45 pm
rick moran has a question for you leftists out there
“...The netnuts are fond of calling those of us who support the mission in Iraq chickenhawks. What do you call someone who sits on their ass in front of a keyboard, railing against the President, claiming that the United States…
4:51 pm
I believe that much of the left has figured out that mass demonstrations are really not all that politically effective these days. And given the unpopularity of this administration and its policies in the Middle East, they might have a point. After all, this profound disliking of everything Bush was not brought about by any “Days of Rage” or “May Day” demonstrations.
Today’s show in Washington was underwhelming, with less than 100,000 in attendance. Think how many would have turned out for a similar spectacle in 1971.
If anything, mass protest is an obsolete concept carried over from the Vietnam era. Today that sort of thing is done much more effectively on the internet.
If you want to beat the left you’ll have to do it in ways that reflect current conditions. If you’re hoping for them to discredit themselves with repeated trips to the barricades I’m afraid your wait will be in vain.
6:22 pm
Excellent post, Rick. You said it much more eloquently than I did today. I salute you.
Max the dog and Oreo the cat salute your cat reference, too.
6:39 pm
Intellectually dishonest talking points. Tim Robbins called for the impeachment of Bush and said, He also said, “Bush would end his presidency in a bunker, as did Adolf Hitler.”
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/01/dc_protest_sugg.html
Or nifty slogans like “Just Poop” is what the left of America is today?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24169_New_Anti-War_Slogan-_Just_Poop&only
8:25 pm
Just when I start to think you represent the sane part of the ‘right wing’ movement (I refuse to call them convervatives) you publish something like this.
The Senators who voted for the resolution opposing the ‘surge’ are just sending a message to Bush: ‘get it done, or get out’.
The Iraqis need to show some spine, or we won’t waste more American live, period.
8:29 am
But there is no anti-war groundswell.
Ah, but there is Mr. Moran. It was reflected at the ballot box in November, very unlike the Vietnam Era. There will be another groundswell in November of 2008 if things continue as they are, and the Republicans will again be the victims.
During Vietnam, when the people spoke, they spoke in favor of the war. Not this time, and no politically ginned up “surge” will stop another groundswell.
Those 19 and 20 year olds of 1971 won’t take to the streets, but they will show up at the ballot box in huge numbers until the Republicans in White House and Congress either get the message or they are gone.
9:20 am
Can you spot the international pariah?
John Kerry’s enlightening interview in Davos, Switzerland…
9:42 am
[...] I have to agree with Rick Moran today. Where are all these mega-hordes of anti-war protesters that the press is touting? I have been looking through the Yahoo photo pages on the protests and the crowds look kind of thin compared to the way the press is reporting it. The May Day protest in Washington, D.C. sought to shut down the government. Some 50,000 hard core demonstrators would block the streets and intersections while putting up human barricades in front of federal offices. How exactly this would stop the war was kind of fuzzy. No matter. Nixon was ready with the army and National Guard and in the largest mass arrest in US history, clogged the jails of Washington with 10,000 kids. [...]
10:15 am
It may not be a lack of seriousness, Rick, so much as a lack of belief.
10:32 am
[...] Your Left, your Left? Your Left? Right? Left? The Left received marching orders from The Right. Seriously. There was a war protest yesterday and the right is not happy. Today’s antiwar left talks big but cowers in the corner. I have often written about how unserious the left is about what they believe. The reason is on the mall today. If they really thought that the United States was on the verge of becoming a dictatorship are you seriously trying to tell me that any patriotic American wouldn’t do everything in their power to prevent it rather than mouth idiotic platitudes and self serving bromides? [...]
11:16 am
Are you suggesting that those who are anti-war attack those serving in the military instead of directing anger at the root cause of all this (Bush Admin)? Why go after the guys just following orders?
Women’s clinic protesters physically and verbally attack all who enter the clinics. Remember, those clinics offer more services than just abortions. It is horrid that someone is getting harrassed just picking up a pack of birth control pills, or attacked getting for pre-natal care because they don’t have health insurance!
Sorry. Us “liberals” don’t want to be like that.
12:02 pm
B-List Rally in DC:
The Washington Post gave Saturday’s anti-war protest blanket coverage, calling it a “raucous and colorful multitude of protesters, led by some of the aging activists of the past” but noted that it “seemed significantly smaller than the half-millio…
12:45 pm
[...] That said, I want to respond to this post by Rick Moran of Right Wing Nut House: The May Day protest in Washington, D.C. sought to shut down the government. Some 50,000 hard core demonstrators would block the streets and intersections while putting up human barricades in front of federal offices. How exactly this would stop the war was kind of fuzzy. No matter. Nixon was ready with the army and National Guard and in the largest mass arrest in US history, clogged the jails of Washington with 10,000 kids. [...]
1:06 pm
Pug,
YOU are a typical uninformed Lefty, who believes what they want.
CNN did an exit poll on the top issues to American voters. The Iraq War wasn’t #1, the Iraq War wasn’t #2, the Iraq War wasn’t the #3 issue to voters.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/07/election.exitpolls/
“Asked which issues were extremely important to their vote, 42 percent said corruption and ethics; 40 percent, terrorism; 39 percent, the economy; 37 percent, Iraq; 36 percent, values; and 29 percent, illegal immigration.”
So the Iraq War was the #4 issue to voters. NOT even close to the most important.
#1. 42 percent said corruption and ethics;
#2. 40 percent, terrorism;
#3. 39 percent the economy;
#4. 37 percent, Iraq;
#4 36 percent, values;
#5 29 percent, illegal immigration.
The majority of American voted for Conservative and Moderate Democrats that the DNC realized they needed to win the majority.
This isn’t the mindless 70s Pug. No matter how badly you want it to be.
New York Times: “Democrats run to the Right”
“In their push to win back control of the House, Democrats have turned to conservative and moderate candidates who fit the profiles of their districts more closely than the profile of the national party.”
http://rightdemocrat.blogspot.com/2006/10/ny-times-democrats-run-to-right.html
CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS, many who campaigned on not withdrawing from the Iraq War, were elected by Americans. NOT your anti-war Lefty politicians in your 1070s la la mind.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15736316/
“Conservative Blue Dog Democrats howl in victory”
Coalition Will Grow to 44 Members Strong in 110th Congress
http://rightdemocrat.blogspot.com/2006/11/blue-dog-democrats-take-9-us-house.html
Ironically the election of so many Conservative “Blue Dog” Democrats has put anti-war Liberal Democrats into positions of power in our government, but that wasn’t what the majority of AMERICANS voted for.
1:12 pm
Rick,
What bull*($#. If there truly were violent protests undertaken by the anti-war movement, you would be first to condemn the anti-war position as a whole and use the violent protests as evidence of the psychologically unhinged nature of all those who oppose the continuation.
At risk of putting further words in your mouth, you might also go on to mock the anti-war movement for the counter-productiveness of their violent actions and lack of faith in democracy, as these actions would surely alienate more moderate americans who might otherwise be willing to support anti-war policies.
Perhaps there are no longer violent protests because there is no longer the threat of a draft. But maybe the anti-war movement realised that violent protest is damaging politically and that perhaps the Vietnam War would have ended sooner if they HADN’T routinely thrown bags of urine at police officers. Perhaps non-violent protest, like the protest practiced by MLK and Gandhi before him is actually an intelligent and effective way for advocating social and political change.
1:26 pm
Badger:
Violent protests? I specifically said “civil disobedience” – a huge difference.
And if I thought the US was falling into a dictatorship, violence might be the only answer. I, and many others I’m sure, would use whatever means necessary to prevent the US from such a horrible course.
1:27 pm
Just a Brit passing by..
Judging by the state of affiars here I think there is a need to go over it once again from the top…
1)A crude military intervention by the United States has led to a predictable nationalist insurgency.
I would assume that most people take for granted that the occupation is being undertaken in a crude and incompetent way. However if you require references then see for example US military advisor Ahmed S Hashim 2006 ‘Insurgency and Counter Insurgency in Iraq’ published by Hurst & Company.
Or if you want a quick visual flavour of the US army winning hearts and minds check out this short clip of a humvee driving in traffic in Baghdad.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8f93275ed9
(no strong or unpleasant images just a humvee driving)
If you need reminding that violent episodes in Iraq are, at least up to available records, still overwhelming aimed at Occupation forces then see this US military report from June 2006
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06428t.pdf
To quote:
“New data reveal, surprisingly, that the vast majority of the Iraqi insurgents’ attacks are still aimed not at Iraqi security forces or at civilians, but rather at U.S. and coalition troops. In other words, as much as was the case a year or two ago, the Iraqi insurgency is primarily an anti-occupation insurgencyâ€.
Check out the graph on page 8. What is difficult to understand about this?
2)If you have no popular base you have to do deals with whomever you can buy or co-opt. This has the cumulative effect of fostering deeper divisions between communities, militias, ethnic groups.
Given that B52 liberals like Nick Cohen and Christopher Hitchens et al are for defence of enlightenment thinking and accuse the left of pandering to Islamo fascism how do they position themselves with regard to the Islamic groups currently in the US camp? For example this clip claims to show Badr brigade leader Hakim working himself into a state of agitation.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb395b51b2&p=1
here is his brother and successor with Bush a few months back:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2698740&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
Remind me again how this war against Sadam’s secular dictatorship was actually part of a wider fight against fundamentalist Islam?
3)You can’t bomb people into democracy. The future of the Middle East lies with grass roots political movements. Two thirds of the worlds oil is in the Middle East yet most people in the region live in relative poverty. When democracy comes it will challenge US dominated terms of trade.
4)The Iraq war was the biggest no brainer for the progressive global left since the 2nd World War. That is why the biggest global and UK protests in history took place. Where opposition parties have been available to harness this anger government after government has either fallen or been forced to pull out. If you need of a reminder of how many country’s have pulled out please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_force_in_Iraq
5)In the UK the party that would have traditionally provided an outlet for the anger and dismay was in government and perpetrating the crime. Thus the fragmentation of the Labour vote has begun. Witness the wholly unremarkable constituency of pro war Labour MP Andrew Smith in Oxford East where several council seats in his ward have already been lost to the IWCA the Greens. Even the anti war party Respect took 13% where it stood:
IWCA: http://www.iwca-oxford.org.uk/
GREENS: http://www.greenoxford.com
RESPECT: http://oxfordrespectinformation.blogspot.com/
Good to see the US anti war movement back on its feet! Not sure about the capacity of the Democrats to articulate the will of the anti war majority but I guess your stuck with them.
thanks for listening cousins.
By the way you do realise that the cultural distance between middle america and europe is becoming vast don’t you? I mean we just can’t relate to you! you really should get out more. Believe it or not you are welcome, just leave your guns at home.
3:41 pm
Amen.
4:28 pm
many in the anti-war crowd are preparing for large scale civil disobedience on March 19th in cities all over the world, so you may get what you’ve asked for.
in the anti-war, social justice, left wing circuit, January is usually a month for peaceful protest (MLK day) whereas mayday and other anniversary days (like March 19th) are set aside for more radical actions.
btw, thousands of people have already been locked up or arrested for their protest activities since the war started. around 2000 people were rounded up and put in makeshift jails during the republican national convention alone.
5:39 pm
I like you, John the Brit. I hope that the mullahs of Londonistan will spare you.
6:48 pm
[...] Rick Moran who was there wrote: “As I watch the demonstration on the mall today (much smaller than those in the past) I am thinking of the massive gulf between the self absorbed hodge podge of anti-globalist, pro-feminist, anti-capitalist, pro-abortion anti-war fruitcakes cheering on speakers lobbying for Palestinians, Katrina aid, and other causes not related to the war and the committed, determined bunch of kids who put their hides on the line, filling up the jails of dozens of cities, risking the billy clubs and tear gas of the police to stop what they saw as an unjust war. [...]
11:12 pm
Rick,
You contrasted yesterday’s protests with the May Day protests, which were violent, which at least implies that you believe that even violent protest would be preferable to marching or other non-violent protest.
But more to the point, you set a ridiculous standard for anti-war protesters to meet. Apparently people aren’t allowed to advocate a policy position unless they’re willing to spend a night in a Montgomery jail cell or firebomb a ROTC center. At least not without being a “coward”. You just don’t want them to say anything.
12:05 am
Please spare us. If 500,000 people showed up on the National Mall, you’d bitch and moan about how many morons there are in America and how they don’t understand the overwhelming danger of Islamofascism. You don’t agree, and that’s fine. But don’t try to turn the failure to carry out some ineffectual protests into the same thing as failing to run off to fight a war you believe in. They ain’t the same, and opposition to the war runs the gamut from writing, to speaking, to protesting.
7:26 am
hast (#19):
How many time have we heard this before? Between ANSWER (front group for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party> and World Can’t Wait (front group for the Revolutionary Communist Party), every anniversary of the Iraq invasion has been targeted with “massive protests” which have yet to materialize. These organizations also tried to leverage off Bush’s second inauguration, labeling it Black Thursday. So a relatively few people acted like complete fools around the motorcade route, but the impact was along the lines of a bear fart in the woods.
War-weary soccer moms who tipped the balance in the last election are generally not going to be caught dead in some rally with the whining malcontents and fringe lunatics who are being manipulated by the likes of ANSWER and WCW.
Nobody is getting locked up, much less arrested for peaceful and respectful protest. Any action by authorities to contain or disperse a gathering has been precipitated by acts of disorderly conduct, vandalism or outright assault.
Case in point, Josh Wolf is rightfully being held in contempt of court for refusing to turn over video evidence of an assault on a peace officer when left-coast anarchists protesting the 2005 G8 Summit turned predictably violent.
Apparently that’s all the more reason for the lunatic left to make Wolf one of their poster boys of late, as he was lauded and magnified by Dennis Kucinich at the recent media reform conference (another bear fart in the woods). One would think that between Kucinich, Moyers and McChesney they’d have figured out by now that our individual right to free speech does not include forcing others to listen.
If the liberals could just figure out how to build themselves up without tearing America down, they just might get their own cable channel someday. Let’s call it FLN, the Flaming Liberal Network.
Chip
8:41 am
X:
I reject the premise of your argument. There is, in fact, a direct parallel between the protesting and going off to war – both involve commitment, sacrifice, and the willingness to fight for your beliefs. Especially since, as we are told everyday, the US is a de facto dictatorship and evil George is setting himself up as the next Hitler.
You can’t have it both ways. Either the country is in extreme danger or its not. And if it is, “writing and speaking” just ain’t gonna cut it.
9:10 am
Rick,
Again, your argument only makes sense if you believe pragmatism to be morally inconsistent or “cowardly” as you call it. An anti-war protester may believe that Bush is the next Hitler and that two more years of his presidency could endanger the world and the country. That protester could punch a cop or chain themself to the doors of the Russell Office Building, but that would likely accomplish little (even if it’s 10,000 protesters doing similar things) since Bush and Cheney don’t care how many people they have to arrest and it would rapidly alienate moderates and make the war last longer or even help another pro-war Republican get elected in 2008.
Alternatively, through semi-passive protest, a protester may feel that, by creating as large a political coalition as possible (and endangering as many Republican House and Senate seats as possible) a friendly congress could use the power of the purse or even impeachment to end the danger of “Chimpy McBush-Hitler” or whatever. This is obviously the more pragmatic approach to the situation, regardless of how dire one believes the situation to be. I believe your attempts to delegitimate such pragmatism as “cowardly” only shows your fear of its (admittedly relative) effectiveness.
The 60’s are over, Rick.
4:58 pm
Chip #24 wrote: “Nobody is getting locked up, much less arrested for peaceful and respectful protest.”
False. See: http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/news/local/16558033.htm
Where we read: “It will be Sheriff Bob Fletcher’s job to hold and process those hauled away during the convention, which begins Sept. 1, 2008. His task could be a big one: New York City police arrested nearly 2,000 people during the 2004 GOP convention . . . New York City struggled with busloads of arrested protesters, and police faced accusations of being overly aggressive. Some protesters spent days in jail. Hundreds of those arrested sued, alleging civil rights violations, prompting legal fights that still continue over what police records the city must release.”
Chip further writes: “Any action by authorities to contain or disperse a gathering has been precipitated by acts of disorderly conduct, vandalism or outright assault.”
This is also false. Though we shall see how things play out in the courts. In NYC I witnessed police preemptively arresting people by the dozens. They would just set up a fence and everyone caught inside was carted off to pier 57 whether they were protesting or merely walking by.
5:28 pm
This link goes to a story about a guy at the protest march who actually allowed himself to be submitted to waterboarding torture, in order to demonstrate the immorality of its practice by the US government.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070127/ap_on_re_us/iraq_protest;_ylt=AnQjliv8XaWVCAQE.cih3JSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ—
5:05 pm
I was patrolling the rice paddys and villages east of Da Nang when that 1967 protest occurred. I was unaware the protest was happening. Don’t know what I would have thought about it back then, I was kind of dumber than dog-do. I know I got boned just like these kids in Iraq are getting boned. Here’s what I think now: I have three children in their twenties. I brought two of them down to NYC on March 15th 2002 to peacefully protest the eminent start of the Iraq war. It was freezing cold and the NYC police wouldn’t let us get anywhere near 1st Ave where the rally was staged. I could see 50 or 60 thousand frustrated people on 3rd Ave and that many more on 2nd Ave.but we had to finally give up after hours of useless pleading with the police to let us through. It could have gone a different way but our mission was peace. It is sad that we cannot regularly amass millions in protest of wars but I would say that it is even sadder that less than 25% of the elegible voters in this country can bring to power and leadership, the kind of political monsters that have drawn us into this nightmare. This country likes a good fight and these politicians know and take advantage of that by trudging our kids into one military adventure after another. That is criminal.
You write: I know what I would do if I actually believed the United States was in danger of slipping into some kind of authoritarian, anti-Constitutional nightmare. That’s exactly what is going on and you are sitting at your typewriter mouthing off and you are a coward and my guess is you’re a chickenhawk as well.
5:15 pm
You are still dumber than dog do. The whole point of the post was that we are NOT falling into a dictatorship and that only paranoid loons like you believe it.
7:19 pm
Here’s the deal. I’ve got a small penile complex so the only thing I have to brag about is my smarts: 136 on the WAIS (I.Q.score) That’s me. 99th percentile. sorry bud, I ain’t dumb. I get your point. Your point is that lefties are cowards and….. Montebanks?
1. A hawker of quack medicines who attracts customers with stories, jokes, or tricks.
2. A flamboyant charlatan.
Jesus, you got me pegged. Howbout I kick yo MF ass? Does that sound like a Montebank to you? Pussy? And Loons? you need to know that the sound of loon song on an Adirondack lake in the fall, with the sun setting and the breeze blowing evokes the most solemn emotional heart felt response in healthy, bright, smart, wise, effective, useful, inquisitive, INTELEGENT humans that have ever occupied the planet. Right wingers miss the point usually and use loons only as an indication that the waterfowl, known as the loon represents “stupid” or “crazy”. You’re still a COWARD!
7:24 pm
Dennis:
At first I thought your comment was spam. The way it started out, I thought you were going to go into some kind of penis enlargement shtick. You know…”Since my brain is so big my penis must be big too…”
Imagine my surprise when I realized that it was a real person doing all that bragging about how smart they were – IQ being the most overrated indicator of intelligence there is.
But the reason I deleted your comment was because you can’t spell “montebank.” The correct spelling is “mountebank” and yes – the snake oil salesman on the mall last weekend were a bunch of abject cowards. I figure anyone with an IQ as high as yours that can’t spell is either a 1) fraud or 2) a mountebank.
I would have included “loon” as a descriptive for you but you obviously have a thing for the fowl. It may comfort you to know that the word “loon” has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the bird of the same name.
If you can fit a few more bits of info into that gigantic brain of yours, it might interest you to know that “loon” as a synonym for crazy or insane is a derivative of the latin word for moon – “luna” – which until quite recently was thought to cause most madness in humans and animals.
You can’t spell and your grasp of the English language being weak and incomplete, I suggest you stop commenting at this site before I do something entertaining for my readers and actually print your comments – revealing you to be the gigantic liar and braggart that you truly are.
ADDENDUM:
OH MY GOD! You actually went ahead and tried to repost the same comment! Very well. You win.
Ladies and Gentlemen…I give you Dennis – the man with the small penis, monumental ego, and a brain ranked in the 99th percentile…of what species we’re not sure but there you have it
2:43 am
Dennis:
Please don’t waste your time.
No one is:
1. as smart
2. as serious
3. as brave
4. as patriotic
5. as hypocritically arrogant
as Rick.
6:20 pm
Oh yeah Dennis, you sure are INTELEGENT!
6:29 pm
SA:
“Hypocritically arrogant?”
Don’t think so. Suggest you try a thesarus. Or maybe remedial reading.
Ken:
How’d I miss that? Someone so intelligent unable to spell “intelegent?”
Too precious…too precious.
7:57 pm
I am not one to pick on spelling or grammar errors (but for the grace of God go I) but that one was, indeed, too precious to pass up.
Rick, you called the chickendoves ‘rank cowards’, but I prefer the term ‘poseur’. A coward is one who realizes the gravity of a situation and cowers in the face of it. A poseur is one who does not even believe in what they are advocating. The anti-war types who are allowed to march, organize and blog must be intelegent enough to see that there is in fact no fascist state in the U.S.
How many mass demonstrations took place against the Third Reich, after all?
1:22 am
So, an anti-globalist is a pro-feminist, anti-capitalist, pro-abortion anti-war fruitcake? I think not. I don’t want to see socialist world hegemony any more than I want to see corporate hegemony.
Are you approving of bush’s SPP? Do you really think a NAU would be a good thing? Should we give up soverignity in order to become more like the socialist cesspool of Canada and the third world pit of Mexico?
I don’t want that any more than I want a UN loving, touchy-feely, diverse, “tolerant”, politically correct, globally cool, endorsed by Hollywood idiots dictatorship.
2:30 am
hey chip: Police were unlawfully arresting protesters well before the post-9/11 mentality set in, as it has been ruled that Seattle is liable for unlawful arrests of WTO protesters . . .
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=18077
The post-9/11 political mentality certainly would likely argue in favor of such measures, no? Lock em up first, sort em out later.
10:54 am
Hast,
Your simplistic strawman arguments carry even less weight when viewed in light of the practical realities of law enforcement.
In every instance you’ve cited there was willful mayhem taking place which precipitated peaceful participants or innocent bystanders getting swept up by authorities in the resulting confusion of the moment.
When crowds get unruly, the unpredictable can and will happen. People can get arrested, or even killed by mistake, as was the situation at Kent State back in May of 1970.
I stand by my statement that law enforcement is not going out of their way to arrest peaceful, respectful protesters.
Chip
1:17 am
Despite Madam Speaker’s assurances the option is off the table, frenzied moonbats are still pounding away on the impeachment drum. Although predictably void of logic and reason, here’s one example displaying a better grasp of vocabulary and grammar than your typical netnut.
http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=24760&view=findpost&p=387088
Chip
9:21 pm
This is a great web site. I have some great web pages myself if you are interested to share. But I should not go on about my site too much, that is not fair, right?
5:57 pm
Just one thing to those who believe corruption was the number one issue to voters in 2006 and Iraq was 4th…. IRAQ IS A HUGE CORRUPTION ISSUE SIR!
Corruption got us in, corruption screwed it up, and corruption keeps us in.
Peace!
1:18 pm
After the pathetic showing in 11, count ‘em, 11 cities across our fair land on October 27th, reflecting declining attendance in each successive attempt by the CKIC (Cowardly Keyboard Insurrectionists Club) to bring the “will of the people” to bear upon our government, it’s fair to wonder if some sort of Weathermen redux is on the near horizon. If what is being spewed in parts of the “progressive” blogosphere is any indication, there are at least a few people imbalanced, unhinged and psychotic enough to take such a step into total depravity.
8:10 pm
George W. Bush’s sentence-by-sentence speaking skills are deteriorating. Apparently, this may be due to a mental illness called “presenile dementia.” Bush may or may not be secretly still drinking heavily. Bush lied, and thousands of people died. Bush suffers from narcissism and megalomania. Moreover, Bush has been arrested three times. Bush was arrested for disorderly conduct. Bush was arrested for stealing. Bush was also arrested for a serious crime—driving under the influence of alcohol. There are reasons to believe that Bush suffers from a learning disability. Bush’s learning disability would explain a lot of things. All in all, Bush is a severely mentally ill individual. Bush is not fit to be the president of the United States.
Anti-war protesters are great.
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA