I don’t get it. I mean, I know that Bush and the open borders crowd want to bring as many “undocumented workers” as possible “out from the shadows and into the light” so that presumably, those who were at one time considered lawbreakers would magically be forgiven their sins and morph into upstanding citizens of the republic with just a wave of government’s magic wand.
This, after all, is the position advanced by the Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers, and other business groups who salivate at the prospect of millions of low wage workers toiling away, allowing them to keep that balance sheet nicely in the black. It’s really not a question of the new arrivals doing the jobs that Americans won’t do. It’s a matter of the immigrants doing those jobs at wages no self respecting American would tolerate.
That’s why I’m excited about this new union they’re talking about forming. It’s called the North American Union and from what I’ve heard, it will solve our illegal immigration problem, strengthen our economy, increase our security, and generally make life in these United States a heaven on earth.
Just tell me where to sign up to join this new union. I wonder if they have health benefits? Paid vacations? Sick days? Personal days? What about pensions?
What’s that you say? I’ve got it wrong? The North American Union will do WHAT?
Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.
No wonder Canadian bacon has been flooding our markets recently. And have you noticed that there seem to be a lot of Canadian actors and actresses working in Hollywood? It’s an invasion I tell you!
And by the way, you do realize that Taco Bell is now the second largest fast food franchise in the world, don’t you? You know what that means? And what’s with all this Mexican beer I’ve been seeing lately? The brazenness of it all! They’re even advertising Corona on television.
If Lou Dobbs and Bill O’Reilly say it’s true, then it must be so. And to cinch the case, the idea has been advanced by none other than the Dark Lords who work for the Council on Foreign Relations.
If we keep looking, I have no doubt we’ll find connections to the Tri-Lateral Commission, the Democratic Party, and other anti-American, anti-sovereignty groups.
“Nobody is proposing a North American Union,” countered Robert Pastor, the American University professor to whom conspiracy theorists point as “the father of the NAU.” They cite his 2001 book, “Towards a North American Community: Lessons from the Old World for the New,” as the basic text for the plan. They also note his co-chairmanship of a Council on Foreign Relations task force that produced a 2005 report on cooperation among the three countries.
The cur! I’ll bet he wears a lapel pin with the US, Mexican, and Canadian flags:
Wearing a lapel pin featuring the flags of the U.S., Canada and Mexico, Pastor told AIM that he favors a $200-billion North American Investment Fund to pull Mexico out of poverty and a national biometric identity card for the purpose of controlling the movement of people in and out of the U.S.So the “conspiracy” is now very much out in the open, if only the media would pay some attention to it.
Yep. Sounds like we should get ready to start saluting the flag of the North American Union rather than Old Glory. One sure sign that we’re about to lose our sovereignty is creating a fund to pull Mexico out of poverty. It’s right here in my “Conspiracies for Fun and Profit” handbook.
Perhaps we should look a little deeper into this conspiracy. Just what are our elites up to?
In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment “to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security.” The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that “our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary.” Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.
I don’t know about you, but I’m convinced. All this talk about enhancing security and prosperity is just a smoke screen. In order to ascertain the real intent of these people, you can’t take what everyone is saying at face value. You have to gaze beyond the words they’re saying and look into their very souls in order to glimpse the true nature of this massive conspiracy.
And that word “community” – another smokescreen to hide the real word they dare not use; UNION! Insidious, I tell you.
Just think of it. No more Fourth of July. No more George Washington. No more “Made in America.” And the prospect of being forced to watch Mexican soaps on TV is just too horrid to contemplate. All this cross border, cross cultural mixing has only one purpose; a political union with Mexico and Canada.
Would the NFL be forced to adopt Canadian football rules? Would soccer become the national past time? Would we see even more baseball games on television? These are the kind of nightmares that could become a reality if this North American Union thing actually goes through.
And of course, they would never put such a notion as a North American Union to a vote. We’re just going to wake up one morning and find out that America is no more. Those slick bastards! Lull us to sleep and then put one over on us when we aren’t paying any attention. Too clever by half. But not clever enough. Not when we have patriots like Lou Dobbs and Bill O’Reilly guarding our sovereignty. Don’t you sleep better at night knowing that those two watchdogs are on the case, protecting America from being subsumed by hordes of Mexicans and pasty faced Canadians who would invade our country and steal us blind? I sure do.
No doubt there are some of your who can’t see where there is any conspiracy to unite North American under one flag. I pray that you come to your senses soon. Before you know it, we’ll be buying our Tacos with Canadian dollars and then it will be too late.
9:29 am
Ugh. This quote is straight from the CFR document:
“North America is different from other regions of the world and must find its own cooperative route forward. A new North American community should rely more on the market and less on bureaucracy,more on pragmatic solutions to shared problems than on grand schemes of confederation or union, such as those in Europe. We must maintain respect for each other’s national sovereignty.”
The idea of NAU is not even mentioned or suggested in the document.
The SPP skewers the idea on their FAQ section: http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp
For all that is good and decent, do not waste your time on this drivel.
9:33 am
Speaking as a half canadian who grew up in southern california, I can assure you, from the deepest part of my soul, that there is no plan, half baked or otherwise to join canada with the US.
Sure, the western half of canada has a good relationship with the States(unlike the snots in ontario, and dont get me started abouth quebec; quebec is so french they dont even get along with france!) but there is zero sentiment in western Canada to apply for statehood with their neighbors to the south.
Zero. Nada. Zilch.
Ok, how about Ontario? less than zero. absolute zero. I know that people here in the US just cant accept that not everyone wants to be an American, but trust me, there are lots of people who like being the unknown country in international politics.
They are called “Canadians”.
There is absolutely no one who isnt a tin foil hatted “I went to roswell and all I got was this t-shirt” x-files rerun watching “their out to get me” type who believes this stuff. It’s crap. It’s total crap, its so crap that the crap has to crap itself three times to get lower than this crap.
And Mexico becoming part of the union? Hell most parts of Mexico cant even agree to be part of Mexico.(Chiapas, Baja, and so on)
The same group of mensa rejects who think this is going to happen would also be the first ones falling to the floor and frothing at the mouth if Canada applied to join the EU. That, my tinhatted friends is something that Canadians an their government have considered, and rejected. Is it possible? yeah, its a hell of alot more possible than the Canadians becoming part of the US.
Canadians do become part of the US all the time – they move here.
Frankly, its how I got here.
I’ve lived and worked in Canada, I have Canadian family, my mom is Canadian. They talk like us(sort of), they come from Europe(mst of the time), but they are not Americans, and they like it that way, and its going to stay that way.
Have you noticed that we are not on the metric system here in the US? Canada and the rest of the world is on the metric system. You see any great move to put us on the metric system?
Nope.
That is a simple, easy to manage level of change that will have to occur long before the two countries come together. All the other levels of change are much more difficult to accomplish, so if we cant work out how to convert to the metric system, what makes you think the rest will be easy?
9:38 am
I have no clue how this thing has gained the steam it has but I felt it necessary to try and inject a little common sense into the idea.
The idea that the government could keep something like this secret in the first place is nuts. And the idea, as Frank says, that that Canadians or Americans or Mexicans would actually vote for such a thing is ludicrous.
9:41 am
Rick, I am not a “grassy knoll” kind of person but can only go by what I see.
If this SPP thing is so on the up and up, why is it that so much of it is being kept under lock and key? Why are groups having to file FOA requests to get the information? Why are Congressmen writing letters to the administration to prevent any agreements between the three nations being done in secret? Why don’t you discuss the history of Robert Pastor, who was such a hot button that even Clinton pulled his support for Pastor’s appointment as Ambassador to Panama?
All those are questions you should be asking. But you are not.
As to shoving soccer down our throats, have you not read the news about Beckham? Or the fact that some businesses are now accepting the peso as currancy? How about that little thing that is about to tear my state into parts called the TransTexas Corridor that TXDOT refuses to discuss at public meetings and says that it has the right to take a person’s ranch land to build that monstrosity just to facilitate NAFTA and the movement of goods that have landed in Mexico? Or how the revenue from the TTC will go to a Spanish consortium for 50 years before Texans reap one damn dime from it? Or maybe you would like to talk about how the SPP was actually designed on Pastor’s theories?
You can joke about it all you want, but when TXDOT tells me that my land will be taken by the state for the TTC and it will be the state, not a realestate appraiser, not me, not a impartial, independent source who determines the value of my land when they take it, it becomes very, very serious to those of us who are about to lose everything we have worked all our lives for.
9:44 am
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHOUT PUTTING IT TO A VOTE? AND DID YOU READ FRANK’S COMMENT AT ALL?
HOLY MOTHER - GET A GRIP!
10:45 am
Rick, I am seriously suggesting that there are parts of the SPP that no one is aware of and the fact that the information has to be requested under the FOA and the administration continues to stone wall giving that information is cause for, at least, concern.
As to Frank’s comments, yes, I understand that Canadians are just as nationalist as we are.
But it is not Frank’s ranch that is being torn up by bulldozers to provide the TTC, now is it? Or are you denying that the TTC exists or that precious ranch land has already been taken to start building it?
You say there is no threat but I consider it a grave threat when the TXDOT representative tells me that I will get at least [probably] $800.00 a acre for land that is worth $4,500. an acre.
And one other thing, Rick. Were the agreements made on the first SPP meeting that was held in Waco, Texas voted on?
10:47 am
So you are saying that one day we will wake up and our soveriegnty will be gone and the US will be no more.
Nonsense!
11:16 am
No, Rick, that is not what I am saying. What I am saying is that there seems to be factors in play to make us more like the EU. Open borders [duh?], security not on our borders but rather around the entire NA continent, trade without restrictions, the free movement of nationals without first seeking Visa for entry.
And you still continue to ignore the TTC which is a reality, not a “grassy knoll” theory. And did not answer the question: were the agreements made in Waco voted on? When the Texas legislature voted on six bills to put the TCC on a 2 year hiatus so that it could be studied, why did Rick Perry veto every bill against the demands of Texans?
You brush the SPP off like it is just a bunch of “grassy knoll” whackos against it. You ignore the situation on the ground and that is the fact that the Texas landscape is being slashed as if someone was using Zorro’s sword.
Do we have open borders? Has the administration done much to end that? Why are the NG being pulled from our southern borders when they were effective? Is the TTC a reality?
12:11 pm
you know old eisenhower did a fair amount of tearing up of texas ranches to make highways back in the day. The interstate highway system is the result.
and it seems that good old roosevelt did his share in flooding the tennessee valley. and mulholland did his part turning owens valley into a desert so LA could have green lawns.
if TXDOT is now “taking farms” its hardly new, and its hardly news. its called ” eminent domain” and its been used for a good long time. Its a cornerstone of civilization – see above for reference material.
It sucks, but there you are.
If someone wants to build a freeway to make it easier to do trade, its hardly a signal of the coming of the new international zionist conspiracy(the canadian chapter)?
And we have an international mexico-us-canada freeway already – its called I-5. I dont remember any caterwauling in 1968 when it was created to replace the decrepit highway 99.
Gee, I wonder if the Canadians every bitched about the “alaska highway” going through their country from the lower 48 to alaska. Of course Canadians have better beer than we do and clearly have better thing to do with their time than masturbate over asinine conspiracy theories.
12:43 pm
Please tell me you’re kidding. I can’t speak for Mexicans, but as a Canadian I can tell you that the vast majority of my countrmen do not want to join the US.
However, expanding on NAFTA would be smart and productive. The FTA followed by NAFTA has brought huge amounts of wealth creation and prosperity to North America. Making trade easier and more efficient does not mean that a NAU is on the way, it is allowing a way for commerce to be quicker and easier.
Glenn Beck, and I love the guy, has done a lot to propagate this myth, but he’s dead wrong on it.
There will never be a NAU that is anything similar to a European Union. What we should be working on here is a joint security policy to stop illegal immigration, protect against terrorism, and link intelligence agencies to help spot and minimize threats to the security of North America. Its called common sense.
1:08 pm
exactly. dead perfectly said.
1:59 pm
Frank Martin, perhaps you should study some more. The interstate freeway system was not built so that Cananda and Mexico would have an easier way to ship their goods through the U.S. The system was built to facilitate MILITARY DEFENSE.
Specifically, the movement of military equipment.
And if your insulting tone is part of your Canadian heritage, it is no wonder we are becoming poles apart in attitude.
“better thing to do with their time than masterbate”? Naw, think I will leave that to you. Because your attitude will centainly create social problems for you.
2:10 pm
grow up, get out more, visit canada, visit mexico. Thanks to the evil international highways that already exist, you can drive over there all by yourself. Heck you can even drive french speaking quebec. (Zut allours!)
Go find a hobby, take up competitive whittling but for gods sake get off the crackpipe of half assed and fundamentally stupid conspiracy theories.
There are real things to strike out against, this is not one of them. There is just no “there” there.
Its just not good for you to obsess on such pure old fashioned horseshit, old man…
2:38 pm
Frank Martin, thanks for such a nice post. And what can we attest your total lack of gentility to? Breeding? Or have you taken up the hobby of insulting people who whom your disagree?
I have been to Canada (was not impressed) thank you and even to Mexico (was less impressed).
If you are representative of either California or Canada, perhaps we should give California to Canada and be done with it.
7:04 pm
Hopefully we can find some point of common agreement.
1. Bird Flu is bad.
2. More trade is good.
3. Jihad against the US is bad.
These are the main issues of the SPP. To help in coordinating government efforts in case of avian flu. To make trade with our 3 countries easier for other countries (literally an extension of Reagan’s philosophy that “a rising tide lifts all boats” to our nation’s neighbors).
The CFR wrote that more trade could be made possible if trade tariffs could be made uniform amongst the 3 countries.
There is no NAU. There is no NAFTA superhighway. There is no treaty. The under secretary of the Commerce Dept. said on Friday that this is all garbage (he was taking calls on the air for an hour on Medved’s radio show). Foxnews just mentioned that the administration refers to the idea of NAU as “silly”.
Retire05 you seem to be a rational person. People are lying to you for your money. People are lying to you for political influence. The rest of us Right Wing Nut Jobs need you. There are real problems in this world. Do not let your voice be lost to this insane conspiracy.
8:35 am
Matt, I said in my initial post that I am not a “grassy knoll” person. I don’t know how much clearer I can make that. But to say there is no NAFTA highway is hiding your head in the sand. What do you think the TransTexas Corridor is with football field wide highways, lanes for light rail, pipe lines, utilities and specialist truck lanes? To say that it is not to facilitate NAFTA is ignoring the construction that is going on in Texas as we type our responses.
Lying to me for my money? The only money I am going to lose is the money I have tied up in my ranch land that will be taken by the highway because a state that will determine it’s value, not a real estate appraiser. Or the tolls I will have to pay in order to drive down State Highway 71 from my small town to get into Austin (yes, it is one of the planned toll roads). Hwy. 71 is a four lane state highway that runs from I-10 on the west side of Houston to Austin.
So as I watch the bull dozers and the earth moving equipment, I will take your advise and tell myself “there is no NAFTA highway, there is no NAFTA highway, there is no NAFTA highway”.
http://www.corridorwatch.org
4:59 pm
Really. There is no Nafta highway. This is a Texas plan (and granted it sounds like a real stupid one). If you are against it, contact your local representatives, b/c the Feds are not in charge of this project. If they fail you, run for office.
And help yourself. Don’t call it the NAFTA highway, call it what it is. Saying “NAFTA highway” makes you sound like a conspiracy nut and it will affect your appeal to others.
I did review the corridorwatch website. David Stall (his site) ran for State Senate. Did he win?
This sounds like big stupid government. Not nefarious. Stupid.
http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx
9:18 pm
You guys have never addressed retire05’s concerns about this being done in secret. If the meetings/agreements are benign, why not put it all out in the open for all to see? And I have no faith in anything Bush is involved with regarding Mexico. He is clearly more on their side than ours.
8:00 am
What secret
The TTC was a bill (or set of bills, I am not from Texas) passed in the Texas legislature and signed by the Texas governor.
http://ttc.keeptexasmoving.org/default.aspx
The meeting this week has been covered by every major news outlet.
The CFR document can be found with Google.
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf
The SPP has its own website.
http://www.spp.gov/
What is being called a secret, by many, is not what is real but what is feared. If you believe that an American President (with not one patriot in his administration to blow the whistle) would sign away sovereignty, and lessen his own power, with the duplicity (or stupidity) of 535 members of Congress, you are irrationally afraid.
On the issue of secrecy. My government better know more about terrorists than I do. They also should use that information to stop them.
They also should be allowed to conduct their work with some privacy. I am sure someone will try to tee off on this line, but if our Constitutional Framers has tried to negotiate and deliberate in public, we would still be under the Articles of Confederation.
10:55 am
Matt, OK, so you say the particulars of the SPP are not secret. So why has Judicial Watch filed a law suit under FOA asking for the minutes of meetings pertaining to the SPP? Ummm?
And yes, David Stall ran for office. Does that make him less qualified to speak on the TTC because he lost an election? If so, there are a lot of people who are not qualified to speak on the things they discuss. If we use your analogy, Al Gore needs to shut up today.
But you didn’t bring that up for any other reason than to slam a person who has honest concerns about the TTC.
You also say the government should know more about terrorists than you do. Well, need I mention the over 70 tickets given to the Fort Dix Six?
I believe that our nation has the right to a certain amount of secrecy when it comes to national security. The TTC doesn’t fall under that catagory.
So you have no problem with a Spanish company building a super highway across the state of Texas where they will set the tolls and gain ALL profit from the highway until it is paid off? The Spanish company will invest $8 Billion and will reap at least $104 billion.
Do some more study beside taking talking points from those who will not be affected by the TTC.
12:59 pm
Judicial Watch is filing suit b/c they have bought into the fear of the NAU enough to want to research it. Not every part of a meeting between heads of state is going to be public, ever.
I have read some of Robert Pastor’s work and, frankly, he is delusional at best. Any “deepening” of NAFTA would require the Senate’s ratification and my state’s senators would fear for their well being if they voted for it (Alabama).
I didn’t say Stall wasn’t qualified. It wasn’t meant as a slam. I just pointed out that he was running for political office (see previous reference to political power). I actually think that his loss speaks volumes of what the voters of Texas think.
You are dead right about Al Gore. Silent would be better.
I agree with you that government is inefficient and the Fort Dix Six could have been handled better. When illegals break the law, we need a way to deport them and keep them out.
Your right about TCC and secrecy. If it is as stupid (the second time I referred to the TCC as stupid) as it sounds, it needs to be stopped, but it can only be stopped by the people of Texas.
Spain? Not multinational? Couldn’t care less. It is a big project. It is going to need a lot of people and resources. Maybe that means it needs a company larger than any in Texas and the US. I wouldn’t think so, but I don’t know.
retire05, I have neither hostility towards you nor do I believe you are stupid. My point hasn’t changed. The TCC is not a NAFTA superhighway. There is no NAU and there never will be. The American people are culturally different than those in Europe. We will never accept something like the EU here.
5:44 pm
Matt, when the governor of Texas tells us that the TTC is necessary for the transfer of people/goods across the state, all you have to do is look at the route of the highway to know what is happening.
As to a Spanish consortium getting the TTC contract because it could handle it, one has to wonder why Dean Word was not given the contract and why the Spanish company has admitted that it will have to borrow money to build the TTC. So could Dean Word and they are an American company building highways in Texas NOW.
And yes, Texans are against the TTC and it will probably cost Rick Perry his next election. Kay Bailey Hutchison will run against him. She could very well win if she comes out against the TTC.