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10/5/2008
THAT SINKING FEELING

It appears this first Sunday in October that John McCain and the Republicans are in deep trouble; that the Democrats, riding a wave of disgust and revulsion among voters over what they have been told is a financial crisis wholely the fault of the last 8 years of incompetence and mis-management, appear poised to take anywhere from 6-8 senate seats and more than 20 House seats away from the GOP. Meanwhile, John McCain slips further behind in key states and a pall of gloom has descended over the GOP professional class.

The political pros I am in contact with are extremely pessimistic about McCain’s chances at this point and are alarmed at the prospect that the Democrats could slaughter the GOP in the Senate. These are no-nonsense people who have been in the business of for many years. They are familiar with the ups and downs of a campaign and are not wont to panic at the first downturn in their candidate’s numbers.

To understand their concern, we must look at history. For a candidate to be down 8 points nationally 4 weeks before the election means he would have to make up 2 percentage points a week from now until November 4 in order to overcome that deficit. (Note: As a candidate’s national numbers rise, there is a corresponding rise in state numbers although, as we shall see shortly, that isn’t always necessarily enough to win.) That doesn’t sound like a lot to overcome until you begin to consider that the number of undecided voters this late in the campaign is limited. Hence, as undecideds begin to break, the candidate who is trailing must win a very large percentage of them in order to catch up.

The fact is, there are few examples of a candidate being as far behind this late in the campaign who are able to overcome and win in the end. Humphrey was 11 points down a month before the election and then began a blistering attack on Nixon that was almost enough to overtake him. Gerald Ford was 10 points down to Jimmy Carter and made a valiant charge that came up short.

Notice anything about those examples? The candidate who was behind made it close but was never able to overcome the entire deficit. I fully expect McCain to come back somewhat in the national polls – especially now that it appears he will attack Obama with everything but the kitchen sink – but history is telling us it won’t be enough.

The problem McCain has is that he must play defense in too many states while his opportunities for flipping some blue states are few and getting fewer. Pennsylvania is a good example. Just a few short weeks ago, McCain appeared to be on the rise in the Keystone state, with some polls showing him within the margin of error. But the last 2 weeks have been disasterous. McCain now trails by 15 and 12 points in the two most recent polls and it appears that PA is now beyond reach.

One of my correspondents said that organized labor is pouring massive amounts of money and people into Michigan – resources McCain cannot possibly match – which is why he has pulled his own advertising in the state. The RNC will continue to run ads and it is possible that Palin will be dispatched to show the flag every once and a while. But Michigan also appears at this point to be a poor target for the McCain camp and they will concentrate more resources in Wisconsin and perhaps Minnesota.

As for defense, it is pretty depressing. Obama has surged ahead in Virginia, Colorado, and New Mexico while drawing virtually even in North Carolina (!) and Nevada. Florida and Ohio look especially bad considering that if McCain can’t win either of those two states, we are probably looking at a 375+ electoral vote landslide.

Iowa is another red state where McCain appears to be headed for defeat. Missouri is very close. West Virginia may be in play. The upshot is that Obama has the money, the resources, the 527’s, the unions, and an extremely angry base hungry for Republican blood. John McCain is being buried by the economic crisis and an inability to convince the electorate that Obama’s inexperience, naivete, and radical associations should disqualify him from the presidency.

There are two more debates where Obama may slip up. That’s just about all McCain has at this point I think. There is also the possibility that some outside force might intrude on the campaign; a foreign crisis of some kind would shift the race from one that is largely about the economy to one that would highlight national security. But I think that a much more remote possibility than Obama saying something stupid that would remind people what a rookie he truly is.

There is a real chance that McCain’s attack on Obama’s radical associations will backfire and he will fall further behind. If that happens, election day will see a triumphant Democratic party with the presidency, a veto-proof senate, and much larger margin in the House.

In short, conservatives worst nightmare would be upon us; an ultra liberal president who can do anything he wants. And judging by what we know of Obama, he will attempt to remake America in the image of a European social democracy.

A brave new world, indeed.

By: Rick Moran at 12:16 pm
41 Responses to “THAT SINKING FEELING”
  1. 1
    michael reynolds Said:
    12:55 pm 

    I’m not sure the possibility of being turned into France or Netherlands is quite what the McCain campaign is going for here. I thought Barack Obama . . . excuse me, Barack Hussein Abdul Vladimir Stokely Josef Yassir Osama Obama . . . was going to plunge us into a nightmare world where we were simultaneously an Islamic theocracy, terror state, corrupt godless communist dictatorship and Paris Hilton sex tape co-starring OJ Simpson.

    I didn’t know all we had to fear was France. I was just in France. Terrific freeways, though the tolls are high.

  2. 2
    profreedom Said:
    1:38 pm 

    This is just a quick shout out to the conservatives and moderates out there who oppose this insane media bias. In the last couple of weeks I’ve been actively using the site Digg.com and—wow—realized it’s loaded with liberals. They post all pro-Obama content and then “digg” it up and “digg” down anything they don’t like. I thought “no big deal”: Well, their content frequently makes the top of Google searches. So, I’m asking you to spend a few minutes of your time in the Political arena and Digg the stories that are providing the facts. Digg the blog posts here and any others you find! Digg.com. Thanks!

  3. 3
    Lawrence Kaplan Said:
    2:20 pm 

    We shouldn’t be too surprised. When economies are ruined it’s always Democrats who do it. Then, they blame it on Republicans and everyone votes for Democrats. During the Depression it started with the Texas bankers – Democrats, and it ushered in almost two decades of Democratic power. Of course we were lucky the last time that Truman was President.

    But this time when Obama destroys the rest of the economy it was be harder for Democrats to blame Republicans, as long as Palin types are around.

    If anyone wants we can talk about this more It will be a little complicated and lots of myths will have to be swept aside – especially a few Conservative myths – and that hurts and makes everyone angry. I say especially Conservative myths for this reason – Conservatives must rule this country if it is to survive, and it’s too rare that Conservatives win political power. So if ruling the country is at stake we can’t afford to make mistakes and we can’t afford to be wrong.

  4. 4
    Surabaya Stew Said:
    2:38 pm 

    Have the Republicans deserved to win this election? Looking back at these past 14 years (since the Contract with America), Conservatism has been usurped by a bunch of radical idealists, right-wing blow-hards, and born-again jesus freaks. What would a McCain victory do to reverse any of this? (Seeing how our economy is being nationalized right now, it is hard to believe that any upcoming administration would do worse.) It is uncertain whether or not this country deserves an Obama victory; but surely the Republicans have had it coming to them for a long time now.

  5. 5
    Allahpunditredux Said:
    2:51 pm 

    This doesn’t look that great for McCain I agree. I think he has to make something happen this Tuesday or start packing it in.
    If Obama wins he puts in SCJs who will outlive me by a long shot. The irony of the bailout is that it restrains just how much spending he can do unless he cuts the mil budget significantly.
    How much he really reshapes us into a socialist state remains to be seen. If he goes two terms… yes we are well on our way.

  6. 6
    Allahpunditredux Said:
    2:54 pm 

    On a related note to the socialist state. I visited Japan earlier this year. Had been stationed there many years but had not been there since ‘93. It was very sad to see how rough life has gotten for the people there. Health care and retirement are in dire straits. I worry that is a crystal ball for what may lie in store for the US.

  7. 7
    wtk Said:
    3:28 pm 

    Not to be ignorant of what is going on with the election, but I think this is article is demonstrating a self-proclaimed conservative who has taken the media bias and tainted polls as the gospel truth of the true snapshot of the current election scene. McCain may or may not lose this November, but as what has been clearly demonstrated over and over again in past elections the polls and many in the media have been simply wrong. The 2002 congressional races were poorly called. The 2000 and 2004 elections were wrongly called. The only reason why the 2006 elections were probably fairly close in being accurate is that there was a very open mood that was shared by everyone – Democrats and Republicans alike. This year the only folks who are totally on fire for “change” is the fringe part of the Democratic party that is foaming at the mouth in hatred. Hatred does not win an election. On a more balanced level the Republicans are just as energized as a whole as the Democrats are in this election. In fact I would argue that many normal Democrats are not nearly as enthused this year with their beloved Obama. I haven’t met one normal Democrat that is enthused with their guy and many of them are going for McCain or not voting at all.

    Stop this talk of negativism and start pumping up the troops to fight for victory in November!

  8. 8
    wtk Said:
    3:34 pm 

    Okay, my brain wasn’t working well with my opening line. I meant to say that I am certainly not ignorant of what is going on with the election, but this article was demonstrating to me as I was reading it that this self-proclaimed conservative seems to be taking the media bias and tainted polls as the gospel truth in that McCain and the Republicans are all washed up this year.

    There has been plenty of evidence over the past several elections to show that both the media and polling folks have been calling elections wrong.

    Let’s not jump overboard just yet if the sinking ship can possibly be patched up and saved.

  9. 9
    Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » McCain’s Last Hope Pinged With:
    3:45 pm 

    [...] Moran survey’s the landscape and finds Republican electoral hopes pinned mostly on the hope that Obama will make a mistake: There are two more debates where Obama may slip up. That’s just about all McCain has at this [...]

  10. 10
    Chuck Tucson Said:
    3:46 pm 

    The Republican party is entirely responsible for creating and enabling the Obama juggernaut. Without their colossal failures in leadership and policy, the very idea of an Obama presidency wouldn’t have been possible.

    If Republicans governed like they are supposed to, things would be very very different right now. The party needs to seriously evaluate both what it stands for, and further, whether or not it is even POSSIBLE to achieve that.

    Republicans held the country in the palm of their hand, with nearly unlimited resources to do whatever they wanted, and now all that has come crashing down around them.

  11. 11
    funny man Said:
    4:14 pm 

    The focus on the economy certainly has helped the Democrats (and that is not going away). The problem with the Conservative movement is that while many people call themselves conservative it is not clear what many of them talk about. I agree with Surabaya Stew that there are people such as the Neocons and ‘Young Earth Creationists’ that have diluted (or contaminated) our movement. We are not even competitive in any East or West Coast city but we have to be to have a future. This is where innovations take place, this is where the economy of the United States is competitive or not. The whole focus on the rural bible belt might have been ok for a while but it is time this changes.
    I hate to tell you this but this is exactly how Rick predicted the race to be (close but then breaking away for Obama).
    Could we just stop whining about the media for a while; and no I don’t believe the pollster are all secret Obama operatives.

  12. 12
    Your Brother Jim Said:
    4:24 pm 

    “Humphrey was 11 points down a month before the election and then began a blistering attack on Nixon that was almost enough to overtake him. Gerald Ford was 10 points down to Jimmy Carter and made a valiant charge that came up short.

    Notice anything about those examples? The candidate who was behind made it close but was never able to overcome the entire deficit.”

    The candidates in your examples were both incumbent members of very unpopular administrations. McCain may not be an incumbent, and he may be trying to distance himself from GWB, but on key issues like tax cuts (that favor higher income groups), health care (BTW- is he SERIOUS about taxing a benefit that for most who have it is worth $12,000 and replacing it with a $5,000 tax credit? That part was a joke, right?),and Iraq, he just doesn’t seem different enough to anyone, including independents, who think we’re going in (shall we say obliquely)a direction that is counter-productive to our best interests. People seem to be in a “throw the rascals out” mood – and this year, the rascals are Republicans.

  13. 13
    wtk Said:
    4:26 pm 

    I see, so funny man you will make such ignorant comments about the “Neocons and Young Earth Creationists” yet not go after the obviously biased media and an overwhelmingly tainted collection of polls. Evidence is evidence and there is enough history to prove the points about the media and the polls.

    Those “Neocons and Young Earth Creationists” that have helped to elect the Republican majority time and time again including Ronald Reagan.

  14. 14
    Arrowhead Said:
    4:26 pm 

    McCain will win.

  15. 15
    Calvin Dodge Said:
    4:28 pm 

    I think the problem is that McCain wants to be seen as nobly bipartisan, so he won’t press the issue on the housing bubble (CRA, Clinton-era lawsuits against banks who didn’t lend money to bad risks, Bush-era attempts to reign in Fannie and Freddie (which were thwarted by Barney Frank and company)), since that would point the biggest finger at the Democrats.

    So instead he’ll talk about “greed on Wall Street and in Washington” without being specific on WHO in Washington had such greed (the only time he’s assigned blame to a party is to the Republicans for supporting pork).

    I’ve volunteered for Republican efforts since Sarah was added to the ticket, and I’ll continue to do so, but if John McCain is too afraid to stand up to the Democrats, then frankly he’s too wimpy to stand up to Putin, Kim Jong Il, and their like.

  16. 16
    J.H. Bowden Said:
    5:26 pm 

    “he will attempt to remake America in the image of a European social democracy.”

    Don’t you believe in compromise? After all, free markets don’t work—the record American prosperity during the last 25 years is just your imagination.

    McCain and Palin both agree that profit is bad, that regulation and oversight are good, windfall taxes are good, that we’re all too greedy, and that it is okay for government to spend $700,000,000,000.00 doing the exact same thing that caused the financial troubles in the first place. Since McCain and Obama both agree with socialism in principle, the most consistent party will win the argument.

    That’s Obama. And pace McCain, this is completely fair. You don’t forfeit the game and then expect to win it.

  17. 17
    funny man Said:
    5:26 pm 

    Wtk,
    these are the ‘ignorant’ conservative viewpoints I believe in: http://www.amconmag.com/aboutus.html

    Maybe the Republicans won due to these votes. However, whether these represent ‘conservatives’ is an open question. Sure I’m tolerant about people who believe the Earth is 6000 years old. On the same token, I strongly believe in scientific innovations and I guess you can do the math. Wasn’t it Lenin who coined the term ‘useful idiots’. In my opinion, you can’t be serious about ‘Young Earth’, are you?

  18. 18
    Joe Said:
    5:42 pm 

    If we do lose, both the presidential race and badly in the Congressional races, it will be somewhat deserved. We as Republicans have strayed from our fiscally-responsible roots. Mainly this is the result of “compassionate conservatism”, which sought to defuse the Democratic criticism of Republicans that we don’t care because we don’t spend.

    Well, we’ve certainly spent! We’ve proven that we can spend just as much as the Democrats ever did. But of course there’s no “credit” for that from Dems, because you can never spend as much as they want to. They will always beat you in that arena. It’s our bad that we even tried to compete on their terms.

    Couple that with the corruption that came along with power and, yes, you can certainly see why America might be ready for a change. If we do lose, we’ll need to regroup and reinvigorate and rededicate ourselves to our conservative ideals: limited government, living within our means and, as a consequence, rolling back the national debt.

    We know what will happen with Dems in charge of all branches of government (and they’ll have the Court soon too). They will spend us further into oblivion. We will have to speak truth to power and do in 2006 what we did in the 90’s. Obama and the Dems will fail miserably and we need to be there to point out every failing and present the American people with a credible alternative.

  19. 19
    Shelby Said:
    7:20 pm 

    I’m sure Obama will win also. I just don’t see anyway around it. He never gets criticized or scrutinized in the mainstream media, so any critique of him immediately seems “untrue” to the average voter. I have friends I’ve talked to who are just normal everyday folks—they like to watch their TV shows more than follow politics—and they didn’t even know he’s spent less than 200 days in the Senate. I am serious. They are that clueless. But despite me pointing out a few things like that that made me nervous about Obama, they are still “pretty sure” they’re going to vote for him. It’s unbelievable! I think he’s just a smooth talking political machine… conservatives like us get a laugh out of the silly things he says without a teleprompter, his former associations that scream “rookie with bad judgement”, and the egotistical Presidential seals and minted coins he puts out, but let’s face it, does that news about Obama really get out? Does anyone care what he did even 3 weeks ago, much less 3 years ago?

    It occured me that Obama’s campaign is not based on what he has DONE. It’s based on his POTENTIAL. And come Election Day, we will see just how far that potential has carried him.

  20. 20
    JDM Said:
    7:26 pm 

    I dont see this as “somewhat deserved” If we lose.
    We (Conservative) have Shouted out. To an empty room thanks to MSM. Rush has done all he could, The blogs too, FOX maybe, But in the end, we lose?
    I pray we dont. lose.
    Every day it looks more like a movie script. And we are living it. Is God playing chess, putting key pieces to block the next move?
    I cant believe how incredibly stupid the followers of teh 1
    are. Really. Surreal. The whole world..Russia must be licking their lips at the prospect of an obama presidential certainty.

  21. 21
    Freedoms Truth Said:
    8:49 pm 

    “The focus on the economy certainly has helped the Democrats (and that is not going away).”

    The Democrats have already done damage to the economy in their running of the Congress. They will do even worse when given all the power… the country’s leaders will shift sharply to the left.

    Barack Obama in the past year has proposed increasing the payroll tax on workers, raising capital gains tax from 15% to 25%, and increasing the death tax. He voted almost 100 times for higher taxes in just four years in Congress, and his running mate Senator Biden openly advocated raising middle-class taxes to pay for increased Government spending.

    Now Obama proposes increasing Government welfare payments for those who dont pay taxes (via a ‘refundable tax credit’), hiking income tax rates on those who already pay close to 40% of collected income taxes, yet calls this socialistic redistribution of wealth a ‘middle-class tax cut’. What a farce.

    Candidate Obama wraps the tax plans of Mondale in the rhetoric of a Reagan. It adds up to the dishonesty of Clinton and economic program of Hoover. Despite the stiff competition, Obama will be our next Worst President Ever.

    http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/10/eidtorial-obama-mixes-mondale-clinton.html

  22. 22
    Steve Said:
    9:14 pm 

    I also believe Obama will win.Before the wall street meltdown I thought McCain would win handely.The poll numbers changed when wall street went into the tank. Everybody blames the republicans, which tells me nobody knows or cares about the real facts and how we got here.If McCain isnt going to hammer home the point about the corruption with the dems on this issue, then he deserves to lose.With the economy in the tank for the next few years, we will become a massive social welfare state. Actually we are will on our way.This is not the country I know, grew up in or my father fought for in WWII.

  23. 23
    kreiz Said:
    9:19 pm 

    Rick- you predicted many moons ago that the Obama campaign bore a strong resemblance to Reagan in 1980. And that prediction preceded the subprime debacle and high gas prices, as I recall. You were spot on. Give yourself some credit in the seer department.

  24. 24
    still liberal Said:
    10:32 pm 

    A few more facts. Conservatism has been the dominant political philosophy in the United States for nearly 40 years. Despite the best of intentions of many conservatives, the country has been run into the ground economically and is seriously lacking in morale and enthusiasm. Conservatism has created a very diminished middle class that has finally discovered voting Republican does not downsize the government, does not reduce government spending and does not create any major changes in the cultural mores of the nation. In simple terms, we have been sold a bill of goods, the majority finally sees this and the jig is up for the right wing.

    American politics has always enacted a pendulum swing from right to left and back again and frankly it is a very healthy part of our nation. In any healthy system there is a need for keeping things the same and a corresponding need to change. The right wing is the force that protects the status quo and the left wing agitates for doing things differently. Too much change too rapidly destroys the political system. Too little change too slowly invites system destruction through atrophy and a fialure to keep up with changing conditions. It is simply time for the pendulum of politics to swing once more to the left.

  25. 25
    wtk Said:
    11:59 pm 

    funny math,

    Why can’t I be serious about believing in a young earth? How foolish to assume you are the only correct one here because you believe in some unproven scientific evidence. For every “scientific evidence” to prove the earth is millions, if not billions of years old, there is plenty of creationist scientific evidence to support a much younger earth whether it is 5,000, 6,000 or 10,000 years old. No scientist of today was around back then, so how can anyone be 100% certain in the age of the earth? For anyone to claim as such is just plain foolish. So there are other examples where claims have been made in historical documents like in the scriptures of the Bible that are constantly being validated annually in new findings. I would rather put my faith in proven claims than presumed intelligence of self-proclaimed scientists of today that largely were not alive even 50 to 80 years ago, let alone millions or billions of years ago.

  26. 26
    funny man Said:
    12:19 am 

    Wtk,
    sure you can believe all you want but if we talk about science you need to present some facts. Yeah, yeah, it’s all just about opinions, everyone should be allowed for his personal truth. I thought liberals are the only ones going for this ‘relative’ truth thing.
    Why don’t you publish your ‘evidence’ in a scientific journal. I never claimed to have absolute certainty and no scientist ever has. So according to you all carbon dating, geology, dinosaur bones etc is ‘unproven scientific evidence’. Evolution for one (not what people like you call evolution) is proven fact, e.g. that is why you have increased number of antibiotic resistant bacteria today.
    If you have other evidence just publish it (in a serious journal)

  27. 27
    CT Said:
    4:20 am 

    I am glad we are going to lose. The Republicans need a cleansing, from the RINO’s, the phukin NeoCons, and all the other trash that is faux-Conservative. Once this is done we can get back down to basics like we have been needing to. If I had the money I would send every swingin’ sausge and skirt claiming to be a Conservative in Congress a copy of Burke so they can remember where their philosophies came from. Either way Obama is going to trash the country and and someone will need to be there to clean up the wreckage, that will be the Conservatives. All we can do is get ready.

  28. 28
    Transplanted Lawyer Said:
    9:23 am 

    I concur, but do not agree, with CT. I think the time has come to understand that social conservatism is fundamentally different from economic conservatism, and the policy directions that these two wings of the party would pursue if in power have diverged to the point they cannot be reconciled. Eight years of social conservatism in the White House has produced the economic results we see—a GOP that has lost credibility on issues of taxes, spending, and deficits. And as we are seeing played out on the national stage, when the GOP loses those issues, the results are devastating.

  29. 29
    Aiala Said:
    10:57 am 

    Good morning, doomed right-wingers!

    I assume Mr. Moran will censor this post, since that seems to be his current modus operandi for silencing folks with whom he disagrees, but in any event, those of you still enamored of independent thought may find this rather eye-opening:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

    A

    Aiala

  30. 30
    funny man Said:
    11:53 am 

    CT,
    a copy of Burke would be a great start! And showing Randy Scheuneman where the door is. I totally agree.

  31. 31
    HyperIon Said:
    12:21 pm 

    Rick Moran writes: “In short…” at the end of a 900 word piece.

    My very short take: the current nightmare is about to end. And conservatives will not be let close to power for some time. You guys screwed up. AND you screwed the country, too. Get used to being reviled.

  32. 32
    Kenneth Almquist Said:
    1:23 pm 

    “We as Republicans have strayed from our fiscally-responsible roots.”

    That’s a bit of an understatement. Under Clinton, total government spending grew at a rate of 1.5% per year after inflation. Under Carter, 2%. Under Bush’s first term, the growth was 4.6% per year. If Gore had become president instead of Bush, we wouldn’t have seen that sort of growth in spending. Gore had no intention of spending as much money as Bush did. Furthermore, he couldn’t have spent that much money even if he wanted to because (as we saw during the Clinton years) Republicans would block spending by a Democratic president.

    As for your complaint that Republicans don’t get credit for all this spending, there’s a reason that they don’t get credit from the general public: Republicans campaign against big government rather than defending it. For example, in 2004 Bush said, “To create jobs, my plan will encourage investment and expansion by restraining federal spending…” (By “restraining federal spending,” Bush meant increasing it by 4.3% in the coming fiscal year.) It’s hard to convince the general public of the merits of a policy at the same time you are pretending that it isn’t your policy at all.

    On the other hand, if you run a company that contracts with the federal government, you don’t worry about what the President says. You look at the amount of money that you are getting from the federal government, and if that increases, you presumably express your gratitude by donating to and voting for Republicans.

  33. 33
    Jim Said:
    2:38 pm 

    The reason for John McCain’s performance in the polls: it looks like we’re in the midst of a global financial meltdown; the Dems nor the Repubs control the Asian and European markets, which nearly fell off a cliff.
    The Dow came back a bit, but is still down about 500 points. At one point today it was -800.

    People nervous about the economy are going to blame the party that holds the White House, fair or not, and trend towards the party out of power. You can talk about Ayers, Rev. Wright or the Keating Five until you’re blue in the face, but if people are worried that the money in their bank savings accounts are in jeopardy, they won’t listen to you.

  34. 34
    Whatever Said:
    3:14 pm 

    The idea that voters care and even understand fiscal policy is laughable.

    So, fiscally responsible Dems, care to enlighten me as to what areas, aside from Defense, where you’d like to make cuts? Oh, no, merely claiming you’ll spend the money “smarter” doesn’t count.

    Go ahead. Let’s hear what you Dems wanna trim.

  35. 35
    Tim Said:
    5:47 pm 

    I love your last paragraph…

    “In short, conservatives worst nightmare would be upon us; an ultra liberal president who can do anything he wants….”

    Those same conservatives brought us the worst nightmare we are all currently living in. Through support of Bush and the current crop of Republicans in our government, those conservatives, you conservatives – brought everything we have right now. And please Rick, don’t footnote that with “rightly or wrongly”. You own this. If the economy was flying high right now, you know you’d be tripping all over yourselves to take credit for it..

    ...Obama will win. And this country is going to be better for it. Really guys…you should be sitting this one out. At least long enough for America to forget what you’ve done to this country.

    You know who you are…

  36. 36
    funny man Said:
    5:49 pm 

    I also care more about my personal finances and the economy in general than about Ayers, the Keating Five or Wright. All this is nonsense anyway. What I do care about is a debate about how we get back to a fiscally sound conservative policy.

  37. 37
    Greg Said:
    6:19 pm 

    The knee-jerk reaction for most undecided voters is to blame the President and his party for whatever economic problems the country is facing. The economy’s going to be shaky for a good while past the election. Let’s face it folks, barring something bizarre happening,we’re facing a radical, left-wing president and a far-left congress. Fasten your seatbelts because it’s gonna be a bumpy ride for the next four to (God forbid) eight years.

  38. 38
    Mike Arno Said:
    9:51 pm 

    We’re doomed. It’s surely the end of the world as we know it.

  39. 39
    Aiala Said:
    11:39 pm 

    “It’s surely the end of the world as we know it.”

    Aye! T’is a consummation devoutly to be wished.

    A

  40. 40
    Maurice Said:
    11:21 am 

    “Conservatism has been the dominant political philosophy in the United States for nearly 40 years. Despite the best of intentions of many conservatives, the country has been run into the ground economically and is seriously lacking in morale and enthusiasm.”

    “Still liberal” wrote this above and it is absolutely wrong. In spite of nominally conservative administrations, we have continued to run and grow liberal entitlement programs, e.g. Medicare and Social Security, which are poorly designed and will eventually have us go broke. Forget Republican v. Democrat, it is statist hand-in-hand with statist. Every attempt by conservatives to deal with these issues runs into a concrete wall. We have the subprime meltdown which was originated by liberal activist groups and then modified to make sure it would cause harm by the Clinton Admin and then the Democrats who blocked all attempts at reform.

    Yes, many Republicans are only faux conservatives, especially Mr. Bush; they have not attempted to slow down the growth of government and in fact have increased its size. But please don’t tell me about how Clinton helped reform welfare; I work in an emergency room, and every shift, I see many young women coming in for problems related to their 4th pregnancy, or just to get a pregnancy test (why not, since we pay for it; if they went to a drug store for a home test, heaven forbid, they would have to pay the few dollars for it themselves); and these women are not yet 20, and have no means of support outside of Uncle Sam. (Don’t complain about Palin’s kid…I’m not being a moralist here, but there is a distinction; her kid is going to be supported by someone other than us, and I am willing to bet doesn’t have 4 welfare babies by the time she is 20).

    We are running the liberal agenda in this country, have in some form or the other and more or less at times since FDR, but it worsened considerably under LBJ. A Democratic executive and legislator will complete the socialist takeover in this country that couldn’t be achieved by revolution or violence. A bloodless coup.

    But it’s a joke to think we’ve had a single really conservative administration that really fought enough for conservative principles; Reagan came close. And you know what? The country has been doing pretty well in SPITE of all this until recently, except during the 70’s, when Carter worked his horror on us.

    I’m sick of hearing how it has been conservatives that are bringing us down. It is the liberals and the liberal agenda and the lack of significant decent true-to-conservatism leaders. If you want to argue about the abortion and drugs and other personal issues…fine, but I’m talking about economic issues, where liberals have ruled.

    But we’re big-time screwed if we have a one-party rule and that rule is from the Far Left. Does anyone remember when you couldn’t walk in New York City safely? That was under Democratic politicians, liberals, David Dinkins. Look at the large cities under Democratic rule..Detroit and Newark and L.A. and many others too numerous to mention. I know the liberals want to project their failure onto the conservatives, but that is utter crap, as it has been liberal policies such as welfare which has killed the black family, has perpetuated black poverty and fostered incredible dependence (with its attendant hostility that it engenders) on the government.

    Conservative rule? My ass.

  41. 41
    oy Said:
    8:54 am 

    Suffer.

    Yes. Suffer. You torture fetishists. You fascists.

    You did this to this country. You fucked it up the ass until no on could stand it anymore.

    Fuck.

    You.

    Oh yes. I should be Christian about this, just like you are all Christians.

    I forgive you.

    My how grown up of you. I assume by your comment that you are about 11 years old. I’m sorry, but this is an adult website. You will need a note from your mother if you wish to comment again.

    ed.

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